Atheist Jerry Coyne Is Condescending Once Again

Johns Hopkins University decided to invite Ben Carson to speak at their 2013 graduation.ceremony. Ben Carson is a neurosurgeon who attended Johns Hopkins University. He also happens to be a creationist who is against gay marriage. There was an uproar from the gay community about Carson’s stance against gay marriage, so he withdrew which was a mistake.

Instead, he accepted an invite at another university. There were no gay groups protesting at this one, but evolutionists were not happy about it. Namely Jerry Coyne and others. Coyne writes

“Yes, Carson worked his way up from a horrible background (raised in Detroit by a single mom) to a position of prestige and accomplishment, and yes, he’s been a role model to black students.  But none of that, to my mind, outweighs his profoundly creationist views.  He certainly shouldn’t be barred from speaking because of his faith, but the officials who pick commencement speakers should have excluded him because his view of science, based on lies, is hardly exemplary of an institution devoted to learning.  Truth outweighs inspiration.”  

He shouldn’t be barred but just have excluded him? What Jerry Coyne is advocating is restricting freedom of speech because of a difference of opinion about science, he means evolution. Listen, Neurosurgery is a science Mr. Coyne!  Carson has successfully performed surgery on the nervous system and has been good at it without believing in evolution! Neurosurgery has nothing to do with evolution because its operational science. It’s like learning how a car engine works and performing repairs on it, both are intelligently designed!

Here is some of the feedback from Coyne’s choir…

“When a university asks someone with backwards views about science to give a commencement speech, they are tacitly supporting those beliefs even if they are doing so indirectly.

It’s unfortunate as Dr. Carson’s incorrect understanding of biology taints his accomplishments. I’d be uncomfortable if he were my surgeon even though he is accomplished.”

Isn’t Evolution the basis of all medicine? Infectious diseases are a cat and mouse game of evolution of the pathogen in just a short period of time. How did he pass all of the biology courses required to get into medical school? Did he lie when taking the tests? I’m tired of these religious types in medicine. They are fakes. And I hope he’s not praying before surgery. I want my doctor to be a cocky, arrogant, self-centered prick when he’s operating on my brain. I want him to have absolute confidence in his skills not in some wizard in the sky.”

This guy here thinks a belief in evolution is required to pass biology that is about evolution! Another guy claimed he fixed two of Carson’s “less-than-stellar results” and my question to him would be, “How did you use evolution to correct those results?” And I don’t mean just believing in it, I mean actually using evolutionary theory in surgery situations. They treat evolution like a cult.  And it’s the wrong religion based on stories. The greatest fear they have is creationists having success in the area of science. And if creationists are having success, it’s another blow to their ill conceived reasoning on why everyone should believe in evolution. So they remain condescending towards creationists.

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9 thoughts on “Atheist Jerry Coyne Is Condescending Once Again

  1. He shouldn’t be barred but just have excluded him? What Jerry Coyne is advocating is restricting freedom of speech because of a difference of opinion about science, he means evolution.

    No. Coyne wishes to bar him because he is trying to foist pseudoscience onto the students. That’ not a difference of opinion. It’s deception.

    Listen, Neurosurgery is a science Mr. Coyne!

    Wrong. Neurosurgery is not a science. Neurobiology is a science. Neurosurgery is a craft, ike welding (but requiring much more training). What dumpster do you get your information from, Michael? Never mind, I know.

    Carson has successfully performed surgery on the nervous system and has been good at it without believing in evolution!

    Further evidence neurosurgery is a craft, not a science. Metallurgists must believe in atomic theory, but welders can do just fine without believing in it.

    Dr Carson’s quote is entirely appropriate—

    “It’s unfortunate as Dr. Carson’s incorrect understanding of biology taints his accomplishments. I’d be uncomfortable if he were my surgeon even though he is accomplished.”

  2. Atheist Jerry Coyne Is Condescending Once Again

    Reminds me of one of the “Tom Swiftie” puns we used to sit around and concoct in grad school. “I’ll take the prisoner downstairs,” Tom said condescendingly.

    Oh well.

  3. Olorin, please list what determines if an area of study is a “science.”

    Heh. An easy question.

    An area of study is eligible to be a science if it ends in “-ology”. Geology, biology, cosmology, astrobiology, chemology, and mixology are eligible to be sciences. Non-ologies, such as creationism, intelligent design, thaumaturgy, alchemy, and psychiatry, cannot be sciences.

    An -ology is not automatically a science. To attain this status, it must be deemed a science. The deeming is performed by the National Institute of Standards and Technology in the United States, supported by our hard-earned tax dollars. Thus, for example astrobiology has been so deemed, but astroturfology did not make the grade, and was relegated to the football fields of universities, rather than to their science departments. Therefore, this field of study must be funded by beer sales at sports events,rather than by government grants.

    In Europe, the deeming is under the aegis of the Scientific Council of the European Research Agency,. supported by their somewhat more leisurely earned tax euros. However, since this agency requires a 60% majority for any rule, and any member may provoke a filibuster, the council has not yet passed on any application to become a science. Nederland has submitted “27partyology” (the study of how a government can possibly survive in an ultramultiparty system), which has languished in the Council for 34 years.

    The system is not perfect, and some amount of underhanded dealing can be expected. Recently a group of zealots has attempted to sneak in creation science by renaming it “Goddiditology,” and submitting it to the Myanmar Bureau of Nomenclature, so that they could claim that creationism is a science at least somewhere in the world. This attempt was foiled in the nick of time through an appeal to the ruling junta by the NCSE.

    And there you have it. An authentic Mother Crocoduck tale.

  4. Sorry, I had forgotten that creationists are required to have their sense of humor surgically removed, so they are entirely insensitive to satire.

    This may be why they don’t laugh when the rest of the world laughs at them. They don’t get the joke.

  5. Since you are a self-proclaimed Lutheran creationist, would that mean your response is also satirical?

    With you it is difficult to determine if you are being simple, stupid or satirically stupid.

    It would help if you indicated the level of lack of sophistication per post.

  6. With you it is difficult to determine if you are being simple, stupid or satirically stupid.

    What Chazing means is that it is difficult for him to determine this, because of his ignorance of the subject matter.

    I agree.

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