The Opisthotonic Death Pose In Fossils

From tiny to enormous from all over the globe, researchers have discovered these amazing fossils with a similar pattern known as the “opisthotonic death pose” but a question remains with this pose for secular palaeontologists. What caused it?

New Scientist writes…

“When palaeontologists are lucky enough to find a complete dinosaur skeleton – whether it be a tiny Sinosauropteryx or an enormous Apatosaurus – there’s a good chance it will be found with its head thrown backwards and its tail arched upwards – technically known as the opisthotonic death pose. No one is entirely sure why this posture is so common, but Alicia Cutler and colleagues from Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, think it all comes down to a dip in the wet stuff.”

This is not entirely accurate, when one rules out a phenomenon, it causes unnecessary mysteries that require a story rather than where the evidence leads. The bias that is being referred to is the rejection of a global flood on earth but without logical inferences. However, scientists have suggested that the phenomenon (global flood) could have happened on another planet like Mars.

Back on earth, Alicia Cutler and her colleagues at Brigham Young University used chickens for dessication and dunking and discovered a drowning effect where they immediately went into the characteristic opisthotonic death pose. This of course is proof of a global flood phenomenon.

In other research news, paleontologist from University of Rhode Island wanted these particular fossils (with the  opisthotonic  death pose) to be buried in a sandstorm rather than drowning but later admitted that these 15 Protoceratops juveniles were rapidly buried in order to be preserved in such great detail.

In PLoS One…“In the fossilized skin samples, the researchers can see not only the animal’s scales, but also imprints of the protein fibers that made up its skin.”

For a century now, researchers have discovered various fossils with a similar pattern not just in certain localities but all over the world that continue to discover these particular fossils that contain the “opisthotonic death pose” and the global flood inference is the best explanation, there is no need of turning it into some sort of cult religion of a secret mystery for future storytelling.

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10 thoughts on “The Opisthotonic Death Pose In Fossils

  1. Michael: “…. secular palaeontologists …”

    There are no secular palaeontologists. Just palaeontologists. As in your quote.

  2. Micheal: “This of course is proof of a global flood phenomenon.”

    Of course not. This could be proof for flooding of a river, or something larger locally. But saying this of proof of a GLOBAL flood is just preposterous.

  3. Back on earth, Alicia Cutler and her colleagues at Brigham Young University used chickens for dessication and dunking and discovered a drowning effect where they immediately went into the characteristic opisthotonic death pose. This of course is proof of a global flood phenomenon.

    Michael maintains that evidence of drowning by some dinosaurs “proves” a global flood. But, if that were the case, then all fossils would be found in the opisthotonic death pose. But the reference say only that this pose may have been “common.” So how does one conjure up a global phenomenon for an effect that, although perhaps widespread, was by no means universal?

    Michael’s delusion faces another inconvenient fact. The chicken study found the effect in fresh water. Another study found no such effect in salt water. A global flood would necessarily have been salt water. Too bad when flights of creationist fancy collide with hard facts.

    And some of us may remember from reading about dinosaurs that m many of them inhabited low, marshy ground near bodies of water. Fresh water. Local water.

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    The water hypothesis for the opisthotonic death pose further is based upon a single study, and even its proponents admit that other causes are possible.

    The T. Rex in the room, of course, is that these dinosaurs did not die at the same time, as would be required by a global flood. They died mullions of years apart. Since creationists cannot leap over this obvious flaw, they must beat the drums to avoid it by touting any scrap of “consistent” evidence to the exclusion of all other evidence.

    Is this following the evidence where it leads? No, it is the selective exclusion of evidence that cannot be shoehorned into a theory. In other words, it is the opposite of science. And demonstrates their desperation.

  4. Olorin, with respect, there are several flaws in your commentary.

    1. Your asseveration that “…But, if that were the case, all fossils would be found in the opisthotonic death pose…” is based purely on speculation and assumption. There has been no test done on all existing animals to support your position, nor has there been a study of all fossils to determine which groups would likely have taken this posture, versus those who likely wouldn’t have.

    2. You stated that “…So how does one conjure up a global phenomenon for an effect that, although perhaps widespread, was by no means universal? …” Dinosaur fossils have been found in this position the world over.

    3. You stated that “…The chicken study found the effect in fresh water. Another study found no such effect in salt water. A global flood would necessarily have been salt water. Too bad when flights of creationist fancy collide with hard facts…” I think you’d better re-read the Biblical account of the flood. The seas and oceans were salt water. There were also lakes, ponds, creeks, rivers, torrential rain, and vast expanses of underground water pockets under the oceans and otherwise that would have been freshwater. This is what the Bible meant when it said “the fountains of the great deep were broken up” – underground water pockets, the size of which are unknown. This means that the flood water would have been brackish water, at best, and not salt water.

    4. You stated that “…The T. Rex in the room, of course, is that these dinosaurs did not die at the same time, as would be required by a global flood. They died mullions [sic] of years apart…” Based upon defective radiometric dating methods? A scientist in Germany was recently outed by the University of Frankfurt for falsifying data based on these defective dating methods. He was found to have faked dating data on 38 different specimen. These dinosaurs did not die millions of years apart. “Creationist fancy”? Have you read any evolutionary theories as of late?

  5. Michael: “A scientist in Germany was recently outed by the University of Frankfurt for falsifying data based on these defective dating methods. ”

    Michael, are you talking about this guy: http://www.skepdic.com/protsch.html

    There it says: “During their investigation, the university discovered that Protsch was unable to work his own carbon-dating machine.”

    So this guy (son of a nazi MP as well) is the problem, not the dating method ! He was faking data and stealing, but the method itself (which he couldn’t even follow …) is not to blame for that.

    And this was also not about dinosaurs …

  6. Michael: “Have you read any evolutionary theories as of late?”

    Yes, and they get better all the time.

  7. Oops, the post I was reacting to wasn’t from Michael, but someone called ‘The Watcher’.
    Sorry Michael, !

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