What Is Your Favorite Scientific Debunked Belief?

Liberal blogger Richard Thaler, asked an interesting question about science theories going wrong and why it took so long for it to be corrected. He quite a response from scientists. One Physicist, writes…

“The earth is flat and the sun goes around it for the same reason that an apple appears to be more strongly attracted by the earth than a leaf, the same reason that when you add 20% and then subtract 20% you return to the same value, and the same reason that the boat is heavier than water. All of these statements appear to be correct, at first sight, and all of them are wrong…”

“The length of time it takes to figure it out is a matter of history and culture. Religion gets into it, psychology, fear of science, and many other factors. I do not believe that there is one parameter that determines how these things are found to be wrong…Religious people of all religions believe even more ridiculous things than all of the above. These are examples of the last 10 years, not of the middle ages.”

Here we go, the flat earth concept again, it has been used quite often by certain evolutionists to mock creationists or intelligent design proponents. One wonders how many years has this physicist really studied Christainity or religion? Most likely he has done some study, but ultimately he wrote a response that is based on a lie.

Isaiah 40:22…

“It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:”

Suggesting the earth is a circle would not give the impression of it being flat! Rather than admitting their own faith in these conclusions they exalt evolution over God…

“The Great Chain of Being is another great example of a long-held, still not fully displaced, false view and also stems from the same kind of “wrongly centered ” thinking. Essentially the view is that humans stand at the pinnacle of creation (or just below God) and all other life forms are less perfect to a varying degree. Evolutionary theory teaches that all creatures are equally adapted to the niches in which they live; every branch of the tree is thus in a sense equally perfect.”

Who said Christianity and science were separate? First that say, it’s not a science, then they write in a blog that it’s a debunked science, which is of course is another lie coming from this particular camp of scientists. However, he does have a point about interpretation of the data, it’s based on a person’s logic or way of thinking. But his logic is clearly bias and outright wrong.

Science is a tool to learn with. On the other hand, evolution is a story that has been created by man. Take for example, Steven Taylor, a macro-invertebrate biologist from the University of Illinois who spent two decades studying the mysteries of cave life. His adventure was spending a lot of time in tight dark spots in numerous caves, observing bizarre creatures that live in these ecological “islands” cut off from the outside world. Now what he did in this project was about observing, recording data and studying the effects of the above-ground environment on the creatures below ground. It’s good science without a story about evolution. Science that confirms the Bible is another!

The cultists in evolution would like the public to believe that understanding these creatures without evolution would be impossible. The cultists in evolution would also like the public to believe that their truth is the way and the light and nobody can interpret nature but them. Answering the question about one’s favorite debunked scientific beliefs shows more than ever a need to open up science research, allow more views, creationist, intelligent design or otherwise!

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6 thoughts on “What Is Your Favorite Scientific Debunked Belief?

  1. Micheal,

    You say “Here we go, the flat earth concept again, it has been used quite often by certain evolutionists to mock creationists or intelligent design proponents.” — Well, Michael, that is because denying evolution despite all the evidence in favor of it is like saying the earth is flat. It’s as simple as that.

    You then say “One wonders how many years has this physicist really studied Christainity or religion? Most likely he has done some study, but ultimately he wrote a response that is based on a lie.” — And then you quote Isaiah 40:22 which described the earth as a circle…True, since there is no clear word for “round” in Hebrew, it COULD mean that the earth is round in the best possible language within it’s own linguistic limits, BUT this verse is hardly conclusive in saying that the world is round since it could also be logically understood as saying that the earth is a flat and circular like a CD or DVD disc. Perhaps Isaiah did mean a round earth, but we cannot know that.

    Even If Isaiah said that the world was round, it would be nothing novel, since many geographers in ancient times already knew that. Christopher Columbus was not the first to say the world was round…As a matter of fact, Columbus didn’t say it at all, contrary to polular myth. They already knew the earth was a sphear and thus his crew were not afraid of falling off the edge of the world.

    You then say “Suggesting the earth is a circle would not give the impression of it being flat! Rather than admitting their own faith in these conclusions they exalt evolution over God…” –Basically saying evolution and God are mutually exclusive…Logical Fallacy committed: False Dichotomy.

  2. And one more thing, Michael,

    Richard Thaler is NOT a liberal. He is a “Libertarian Paternalist.”

    But I guess anyone who holds any position you just don’t like is classified as “liberal?”

  3. Michael says: “Here we go, the flat earth concept again, it has been used quite often by certain evolutionists to mock creationists or intelligent design proponents.”

    Kris notes correctly that even the ancients 2000 years ago knew that the Earth is a sphere, that science did not lately come upon this knowledge.

    What Michael fails to note is that creationists held to a flat Earth and geocentrism until 50 or 60 years ago—long past even the most ignorant layman. Michael minimizes Isaiah 40:22 by noting that it could have other meanings. But dismissing any of the flat-Earth biblical references is a red herring, in view of the fact that creationists did in fact believe that the Bible mandated a flat Earth centuries after everyone else had abandoned it. Wilbur Glenn Voliva, creationist leader and founder of the famous Zion City utopian community in Illinois[1] had this to say:

    “I believe this Earth is a stationary plane; that it rests upon water, and that there is no such thing as the earth moving, noo such thing as the earth;’s axis or the earth’s orbit. It is a lot of silly rot, born in the egotistical brains of infidels…. I get my astronomy from the Bible.”[2]

    Voliva was by no means the only modern-day creationist leader to embrace a flat earth or geocentrism.[3] In fact, some maintain to this day that the Bible requires the earth to be flat and stationary: viz the First Catholic Conference on Geocentrism, held at Notre Dame University on 6 November 2010.

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    Perhaps in a few decades opposition to evolution will also shrink to a dim memory. Michael will then explain away special creation as a misinterpretation of Genesis, as irrational as … as … as a biblical flat earth.

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    [1] I include this background because Michael seems as ignorant in the history of his own beliefs as he is in matters scientific. Voliva was one of the leading figures in the Scopes trial, although he himself did not testify as a witness.

    [2] Cook, P.L., Zion City, Illinois: Twentieth-Century Utopia (Syracuse University Press, 1996), p.198.

    [3] See, for example, Garwood, C., Flat Earth ((St. Martin’s Press 2007), pp. 333-357; and Numbers, R., The Creationists (2d Ed., Harvard University Press 2006), pp. 124, 264, 331, 428.

  4. Michael: “The cultists in evolution would like the public to believe that understanding these creatures without evolution would be impossible. The cultists in evolution would also like the public to believe that their truth is the way and the light and nobody can interpret nature but them.”

    Michael, your science envy is showing again.

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    PS: Please, please, please fix the blockquote tag.

  5. Richard Thaler, liberal or not, has a bevy of high-profile respondents to his question.

    One that I found especially interesting was Rupert Sheldrake. Not because of his specific answer, but because Sheldrake himself proposes a theory that he has maintained for decades in the face of a total lack of any evidence whatever. His theory involves universe-wide morphogenetic fields that can guide inert and living matter into forms that have preexisted elsewhere. But, so far, the positive reviews of his book The Presence of the Past: A Field Theory of Life have come only from spiritualists and parapsychologists. Oh well.

    BTW, Kris is correct that Michael’s definition of a “liberal” is anyone who disagrees with him. In this case, however, we are left to wonder what particulate views of Thaler Michael disagrees with. Perhaps he thinks the entire field of behavioral economics is a liberal ploy. Or perhaps it’s only Thaler’s research findings of path-dependent risk attitudes among TV-game contestants.

    Michel, please explain yourself: Why is Richard Thaler a liberal? I thought not.

  6. *sighs*

    Been talking to Creationists over at EducateTruth.com since the creationists over there seem more prone to go into a discussion..

    I got into a mini-debate with Sean Pitman who (unlike Michael) at least has SOME apparent qualifications to speak on the subject. I’m having more fun over that

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