Science Bits For July In The News

Bradley Monton, professor of philosophy at the University of Colorado is coming out with a book called; Seeking God in Science; an Atheist Defends Intelligent Design which is due to be released this coming July 31.  Bradley Monton is an interesting fellow, although it is sad that he rejects God. He is one of the few atheists which  doesn’t try to put science in a box.

What I find even more interesting, he has been observing weak arguments against the existence of God. Knowing his bias, this is extremely rare. As he states in his blog…

“William Lane Craig and Christopher Hitchens recently had a debate about the existence of God at Biola University, and apparently Craig was the much superior debater.”

This particular debate was drew much attention, over 3,000 people attended and were from various countries.  Sri Lanka even purchased a live feed. Here is the reason why Bradley Monton thought the debate was won by a theist…In another review it reveals some details…

“The debate went exactly as I expected. Craig was flawless and unstoppable Hitchens was rambling and incoherent, with the occasional rhetorical jab. Frankly, Craig spanked Hitchens like a foolish child. Perhaps Hitchens realized how bad things were for him after Craig’s opening speech, as even Hitchens’ rhetorical flourishes were not as confident as usual.”

“Hitchens wasted his cross-examination time with questions like, “If a baby was born in Palestine, would you rather it be a Muslim baby or an atheist baby?” He did not even bother to give his concluding remarks, ceding the time instead to Q&A.”

In space.com Seth Shostak from the SETI Institute assures the public that so-called; “Aliens” will not look like bodybuilders…lol…He writes…

“According to Genesis 1:27, “God created man in His own image.”  OK, but what about all the other intelligent, cosmic inhabitants?  Well, Hollywood has taken care of that. It has created aliens in man’s image.”

Seth Shostak is coming up with conclusions of something which has never been detected and something he has never seen himself. To make it look scientific, he makes an appeal to convergent evolution to suggest that optimal shape for a smart alien is the humanoid appearance. He goes on to say, “Since any aliens we detect are ahead of us, they’ve already done this; they’ve made the transition from biological to engineered intelligence, and left behind the quaint paradigm of spongy brains sloshing in salt water.” What? “Engineered intelligence?” It  sounds more like the modern intelligent design movement than an natural unthinking process.

In Texas, Governor Rick Perry picked the successor to Don McLeroy who failed to get the majority of votes to be confirmed. He has picked Gail Lowe to chair the Texas state board of education. The likes of the NCSE is not too happy with the appointment. The appointment is a good one, it will keep science standards in Texas on par with not putting it in a box but rather have students be taught to evaluate scientific data, as we seen a previous post. Many claims happen in naturalism, often times making profound statements to imply it’s conclusive, “we have solved the problem” when in fact they lack data to make such claims.

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3 thoughts on “Science Bits For July In The News

  1. Here’s another interesting Science Bit for July.

    The same issue of Science that supposedly “focused” on turtle evolution contains an article that seems to provide even more hope for creationists. “Genomic Clues to DNA Treasure Sometimes Lead Nowhere” (Sci 325:142, 10 July 2009) reports that some regulatory sequences highly conserved across many species, and thus thought to be critical, in fact seem to have no deleterious effect when they are removed. And, conversely, some regions thought to be important were found to vary across species.

    This article seems to have all the tasty morsels that creationist science scavengers drool over like hyenas at a still-warm carcass: It is a second-hand source, rather than primary research. Lots of minable quotations that beg to be taken out of context. Yawning gaps in present knowledge. Lame-brain scientists were wrong, wrong, wrong in their previous thinking.

    Have at it, Michael! Unless your ICR ghostwriters passed it up for reasons of their own….

  2. Seth Shostak: “Since any aliens we detect are ahead of us, they’ve already done this; they’ve made the transition from biological to engineered intelligence, and left behind the quaint paradigm of spongy brains sloshing in salt water.”

    Anyone who thinks this has never read Michael Chrichton’s Andromeda Strain, or Frank Schatzing’s “Der Schwarm” (“The Swarm”). in these novels, the aliens are so—erm—alien that the poor humans look right at them and don’t even realize they are intelligent. Until they have conquered us.

    Michael: “Seth Shostak is coming up with conclusions of something which has never been detected and something he has never seen himself.”

    No, he’s coming up with imaginative guesses. Creationists are bound to the qwords on the printed page, and do not understand this capability. (BTW, here’s a problem. A birdwatcher sees 4 starlings, 7 finches, 3 crows, and 9 robins in a field. What is the probability that his next sighting will be a cardinal? Read up on the Turing-Good estimator sometime. Warning More than 8th-grade math required.)

    Bradley Monton: ““William Lane Craig and Christopher Hitchens recently had a debate about the existence of God at Biola University, and apparently Craig was the much superior debater.”

    Philosophers have been debatring the existence of God for thousands of years, and a professor at Talbot School of Theology in La Mirada, California. finally carries it off, because he is the better debater. I’m glad that’s been resolved. And the person who declared the winner is a Colorado physicist. Wow.

    Michael: “The appointment is a good one, it will keep science standards in Texas on par with not putting it in a box.”

    Right . She’ll put it in a coffin. The next step will be to replace atheistic gravitation with the theory of Intelligent Falling.

    Once agian, Michael, science is not a popularity contest, or a political process. You can silence it in Texas, you might even move it offshore to China and India. But, as Philip K. Dick says, “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.”

  3. Michael: “Seth Shostak is coming up with conclusions of something which has never been detected and something he has never seen himself. ”

    Now that sounds familiar. You could be talking about “design.”

    ==Soc Puppette

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