Some Are Upset Over Creationists/ID New Influence in Texas

Texas has a new proposed science curriculum which does open the door for critical thinking about evolution. What special interest groups are very concerned up to the point where some groups are upset about it, is the fact that Creationists and Intelligent Design proponents were appointed to the Texas review panel. This review panel will help decide how science is taught in Texas.

There is actually a balance of viewpoints on the panel, there are 3 people who endorse some sort of alternative conclusion either creationism or ID and 3 people who support evolution only.

On the Evolutionist Side

1) Gerald Skoog, professor and dean emeritus of the College of Education at Texas Tech and co-director of the Center for Integration of Science Education and Research. A pro-evolution activist who doesn’t believe in critical thinking and is a crowd favorite among militant atheists.

2) Ronald K. Wetherington, professor of anthropology at Southern Methodist University and director of the Center for Teaching Excellence. A pro-evolution activist who opposed having a Design vs Evolution conference in Southern Methodist University. A favorite among atheists.

3) David Hillis, professor of integrative biology and director of the Center of Computational Biology and Bioinformatics at the University of Texas at Austin. A pro evolutionist activist who spoke at the special interest conference in favor of removing “strengths and weakness” being taught in public schools. Another militant atheist favorite.

On the Creationist and Intelligent Design Side…

1) Stephen Meyer, has a Ph.D. in history and the philosophy of science. He was one of the co-founders are the intelligent design movement which started back in the mid 90s. Meyer is currently vice president and senior fellow at the Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture.

2) Ralph Seelke, a graduate of the University of Minnesota and the Mayo Graduate School of Medicine, where he obtained his Ph.D. in microbiology. He been a Professor at UW-Superior since 1989.

3) Charles Garner, a graduate University of Colorado where he obtained his Ph.D. in Chemistry. Staff Scientist, Procter & Gamble Miami Valley Laboratories, 1986-87 and currently is working at Baylor University.

“It’s simply stunning that any state board members would even consider appointing authors of an anti-evolution textbook to a panel of scientists,” she said. “Are they coming here to help write good science standards or to drum up a market for their lousy textbook?” Texas Freedom Network President Kathy Miller

No Kathy, they are not required to implement your slant for writing science standards. Texas education is in good hands, both sides are represented well, and most likely students there will actually learn more about evolution by being exposed to seeing the weak points of it, than being indoctrinate by it.

It will be a major battle with special interests, but it also going to be an interesting battle within the panel itself. It’s the most diverse (as far as conclusions about evolution) group I have seen in public education.

A classic example of being “indoctrinated” by evolution is when someone (evolutionist) is debating you that RNA can survive in water for long periods of time when in fact it dissolves in water because of the presence of oxygen.

This sort of bias should not be a science standard in public schools. By allowing other viewpoints to be heard will actually help science standards not treat natural science as though it were religious dogma but treating true science as representing a structured discipline of systematic examination for the purpose of obtaining knowledge.

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11 thoughts on “Some Are Upset Over Creationists/ID New Influence in Texas

  1. “No Kathy, they are not required to implement your slant for writing science standards. Texas education is in good hands, both sides are represented well, and most likely students there will actually learn more about evolution by being exposed to seeing the weak points of it, than being indoctrinate by it.”

    You’re exactly right. In fact, we should use this in other subjects too.

    How about history class?

    We can teach both sides: The Holocaust took place, and the Holocaust didn’t take place.

    After all, it’s just looking at both sides. It’s not like EVIDENCE means anything…

  2. “Texas has a new proposed science curriculum which does open the door for critical thinking about evolution.”

    Actually the newly proposed TEKS that were published in the past few weeks are not critical of evolution at all. The state board appointed a formal curriculum review panel to review these proposed TEKS.

    “This sort of bias should not be a science standard in public schools.”

    Appointing two people who have a vested interested in the books Texas adopts–Meyer and Seelke, authors of “Explore Evolution”–could certainly be construed as “bias”, in my opinion.

  3. morsc0de

    “How about history class?

    We can teach both sides: The Holocaust took place, and the Holocaust didn’t take place.”

    History is a bit different than the evolution debate as people can view it’s contents from numerous different angles. I bet when you think of the Holocaust, you think of the Jews, right?

    There has been more than one holocaust that happened in history, for example, the Serbian population during World War II, was outlawed. The terrorist organization of the “Oustachis” let by Pavelitch transformed a country into a bloody mess. Over 700,000 Serbs were killed during World War II.

    More recent was the Rwandan Genocide in 1994 where ethnic Tutsis, were massacred by rival ethnic Hutus. About 1 million were killed. The world turned their back as no country lifted a finger in objection which was totally wrong. Some call the Rwandan Genocide a holocaust.

    So the learning of one holocaust in particular (the Jewish holocaust) is not really learning about a holocaust in general. That’s the problem when it comes to the teaching of evolution. Only one part of it is shown in public education.

  4. airtightnoodle,

    “Explore Evolution” presents evidence for evolution and against evolution…Most likely you never read the text book but you think it’s bias. What current text book taught in the public schools presents strengths and weakness of evolution?

  5. Michael: so, please enlighten me on the weaknesses of evolutionary theory. After all, after reading a goodly amount of ID/creationist literature, all I could find were mulltiple strawmen and some rather obvious delusions, as well as strategically placed lies. What’s more, no reasonable competing theory is presented at any point in any of it. ID does not count, not being a theory in any non-trivial sense.

  6. “So the learning of one holocaust in particular (the Jewish holocaust) is not really learning about a holocaust in general. That’s the problem when it comes to the teaching of evolution. Only one part of it is shown in public education.”

    Excuse me? That is a lie, both concerning the study of history and that of biology. Repeating creationist cue-cards doesn’t count for much, y’know.

  7. Um…all of them present the strength and weaknesses of evolution.

    The problem for you, I’m sure, it that there aren’t weaknesses. There’s not a single piece of evidence out that that contradicts the theory of evolution.

    Sure, we don’t have every fossil of every animal that ever lived. But if that’s what you’re running your ideas on, that’s pretty sad.

  8. vodyanoj,

    How many holocausts did you learn about in history class? History has many different events, and also has many interpretations of each event. If you narrow down a history depending upon what event it is, you may also narrow down the interpretations. Also, there are many things in history that are not included in public education.

    Let me give you another example, my brother when to a government University to become a teacher, 5 years before his arrival no public schools were hiring graduates from that University. There was a change, and that change was the emphasis on culture, it was inserted into everything, math, science, reading, and so on. It was believed by the school professors that history of a minority’s culture was so important for the success of that student. More important than learning math problems on their own. So it went beyond just learning it history class.

    On the other hand, a friend of mine graduated from a baptist school and was getting numerous offers from other schools as well as public schools. Her school ranked 26th in the nation that year and she was in the top ten in her class.

    Biology on the other hand, is the study of animals. And certainly in evolutionary biology they not teaching all about evolution and it’s common knowledge to know that not all evolutionists agree with each other. Frankly, I believe you get teach the study of animals in the public schools without teaching about evolution or creationism.

  9. morsec0de,

    Over 200 million fossils is a pretty good sample of what’s out there. And just because all the fossils haven’t been found, doesn’t mean you will find all of them. Nor does it explain your belief in evolution as factual. Explaining something is not the same as having evidence for it.

  10. Not really, evidence in evolution once thought to be factual, changes with new discoveries and then is replaced by another theory thought to be factual. The cycle is endless.

    Many theories are relative in evolution that is because the observational data does not match with the theory. Take the artwork research in the Chauvet Cave. It has been dated 30,000 years old, but the paintings are so advanced, that no human had the talent to paint pictures like that 30,000 years ago. So you have conflicting data in evolution…https://thebibleistheotherside.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/artwork-in-the-chauvet-cave/

    You son, have faith in evolution not facts…

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